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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses do not disfellowship anyone who is NOT a baptized member of the cult.

  No one is forced to become a JW; they are not shanghaied, no one puts a gun to their head.

  You say you were TRICKED? You say you were DECEIVED? So is every other religious person.

  The people who shun you are doing so because of their own self-interest. Do you think they should toss away their spiritual lifeboat to make a person who BROKE THE RULES (that's YOU) feel good? WHY? Why should they put your interests ahead of their own?

  To expect otherwise is just silly.

  Now go ahead and denounce me as a "Watchtower lawyer." In this instance it would be a compliment.
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  Ok, Simon, give us the links to the "alternate" covers that show Hillary as the loser and Trump as the winner.
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  Guys were you ever on security at the assembly K.H ? Tell us your funny story's

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was on security at an assembly and we were told not to let anyone no matter who they were in before 730 am .

  this bro who was always full of himself come along and wanted to be let in i said we were under strict instructions not to let anyone in before 730. he kept trying to talk me around and failed so he said " do you know who i am "?

  i said " yes a humble servent of jehovah just like the rest of us".

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  The BEST thing about it is that it gave me an IRON-CLAD excuse to sleep through the assembly programs. "I'm needed to protect Jehovah's physical assets!"
  

  It's like the Bethelite who peels potatoes rejoicing in his "sacred service!" Yeah, he's a minister, according to Idaho 3:16.

  One time while we were up all night, there was a traffic accident on the road that went past the stadium, and having nothing more urgent to attend to at "O-dark-thirty" we went over to see if we could help.

  The accident involved a passenger car and an ICE CREAM TRUCK. It was summer, it was HOT (90+ degrees) and this was in Washington DC adjacent to a poor neighborhood. The neighbors had a great deal of interest in "rescuing" the inventory that was on the truck, so one of the smart guys in our team quickly concocted a story about how refrigerant gas had CONTAMINATED all the ice cream.

  It worked! The inventory remained un-pilfered!

  No one was injured in the accident and we didn't take any of the ice cream.

  We sincerely wanted to be helpful, not opportunistic parasites.
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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  Simon Templar said, "I know and understand more than the average person on this subject..."

  I disagree. What are you, a restaurant inspector?

  Here's the rub: membership in the JWs is VOLUNTARY. When you were baptized, you agreed to FOLLOW THEIR RULES, and one of the rules is that they can use "loving" "scriptural" disciplinary methods to "save" you from your "sinful" nature.

  They have legal rights too, y'know.

  ALL of us made a BAD DECISION when we "decided" to be baptized as JWs. At some point you just have to accept responsibility for you MISTAKES, FORGIVE YOURSELF, flip them the bird, and go on your way, injured perhaps, but undefeated.

  ...and here is a great way to test what your lawyer's opinion REALLY is: ask him to work with you PRO BONO. If he gives you reasons why he can't do that, it translates to "your case doesn't have a chance of succeeding, and I like to eat three times a day."

  Best of luck to you!
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  Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am no fan of donald trump at all.

  i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

  i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

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  Collection of funny commercials
  
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  What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

  first, i found out.

  i found out.

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  Lou Reed "Take A Walk On The Wild Side"
  
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  What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

  first, i found out.

  i found out.

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  Jefferson Airplane - Somebody to love
  
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  Assassination threats against Trump flood twitter
  
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  I was unaware of the anti-Obama riots of 2012, so I did some research...

  From The New York Times:
  
  Anti-Obama Protest at Ole Miss Turns Unruly
  By ROBBIE BROWN NOV. 7, 2012
  
  A student protest at the University of Mississippi against the re-election of President Obama turned disorderly on Wednesday morning, with some students chanting racial epithets and two arrested for disorderly conduct.
  
  The university said in a statement that a crowd of 400 people formed at the student union shortly before midnight after reports of a riot spread on social media. Some students yelled racial slurs and profanity in anger over Mr. Obama’s re-election, the statement said. Photographs posted online showed students lighting Obama campaign signs on fire.
  
  The university’s chancellor, Dan Jones, said, “All of us are ashamed of the few students who have negatively affected the reputations of each of us and of our university.” No one was injured, and no property was damaged, but Dr. Jones said the campus police were investigating.
  
  Mr. Obama lost to Mitt Romney in Mississippi by a wide margin. But after Mr. Obama was declared the winner in the national race, 30 or 40 people began protesting on the campus, and a rumor spread through Twitter that it was a riot. “The gathering seems to have been fueled by social media, and the conversation should have stayed there,” Dr. Jones said.
  
  On Sept. 30, the university marked the 50th anniversary of the riots that followed its racial desegregation. In recent years, it has taken steps to address complaints of insensitivity, changing its mascot to a black bear from a Confederate soldier and dropping “Dixie” as its unofficial fight song. Students elected the first black homecoming queen this year.
  
  Margaret Ann Morgan, a senior who is white, said the protests cast the university in a bad light. Both black and white students will march across campus holding candles, she said.
  
  “What happened last night was really disappointing,” she said. “We do have a history of racial issues, but this is not at all what our school or most students stand for.”
  
  
  
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  The "unbiased" media:

  (these are not PhotoShopped phony covers, they were actually printed by the respective "news" magazines.)